Navigate to Next/Previous Sibling Feature

This suggested feature would definitely benefit from a more precise sibling page ordering mechanism, as suggested in XWIKI-16453 "Provide Some Explicit "Ordering" for Pages and Sub-Spaces in a Given Space".

Do you have a mockup/idea on how it could be displayed on screen (where?)?

I gave it a shot - mind you, I'm no UI designer...

Note that instead of the generic labels "previous", "up", and so on maybe it would be more user-friendly to include the actual page titles of the target pages there instead...

Examples of online manuals showing similar navigation options:

• http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.preface.organization.html
• https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/xplang.html
• https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/language-structure.html

(Note that those manuals linked above usually define "next" to lead to the first sub-page, and they do not provide an explicit "subsection" link instead. Maybe this would be a more common convention users are more used to. So repeatedly clicking "next" would recursively walk through the whole manual until the last page is reached, descending and re-ascending as required, while "previous" works analoguously.)

As it inevitably adds visual clutter to the page, it might be a good idea to allow enabling / disabling on a page-by-page (or maybe page-hierarchy-by-page-hierarchy) base, or maybe in a user specific way such that user A who likes it can see those controls and user B who hates it can disable them...

Yes it makes sense in this specific use case because there's an order for the split (by split heading).

However, I don't see how it work in a generic way.

So for me this feature is more a feature related to the office import module.

Actually, it was my first though that the Office Importer should generate such navigation links into the imported pages.

But then it struck me that the concept is much more general and also applies to content purely created in the wiki from scratch. So adding it to the Office importer would probably be a more simple solution which would immediately help when importing office documents, but would not be usable for other content.

Also "hard references" generated into the actual page source would not adapt to modifications applied to the linked pages - so what if I insert a whole new section F between previous sections D and G? The links generated into D will still point to G instead of F, the same holds for the links in G pointing to D, and I have to edit and adjust everything. (With the risk of forgetting to do so, creating a link mess.)

BTW, sorry for getting the prio wrong on issue creation. This wishlist entry clearly is no "important" feature or worse, though I consider it to be "nice to have".

> Provide a feature to navigate to the next / previous "sibling page" (page below the same parent page) from within the page.

What does next mean? Next based on the page name? Based on the title name? Based on the data the page was created?

I created a new wishlist entry which asks for the addition of an explicit "page/space ordering" feature in XWIKI: XWIKI-16453

Do you have a mockup/idea on how it could be displayed on screen (where?)?

On the other hand, a manual imported into Xwiki and split across several pages would - in my point of view - benefit a lot from this feature.

Yes it makes sense in this specific use case because there's an order for the split (by split heading).

However, I don't see how it work in a generic way.

So for me this feature is more a feature related to the office import module.

> Provide a feature to navigate to the next / previous "sibling page" (page below the same parent page) from within the page.

What does next mean? Next based on the page name? Based on the title name? Based on the data the page was created?

"Next" / "Previous" in the sense how the pages are displayed in the page tree / breadcrumb menu.

(This leads to another feature suggestion I'm carrying in my head for some time - provide a way to add some kind of "sort order" to pages such that the ordering can be influenced without specifically doctoring the page titles. This would also help managing "sequential" information distributed accross multiple pages.)

Also we already provide this feature in the breadcrumb where you can navigate to siblings easily. Wouldn't that fix your need? (see screenshots at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/ContentOrganization/#HUsingNestedPages ).

This feature is definitely valuable. In addition, our Wiki also shows the page tree in the left-hand menu bar to simplify navigation.

However, the natural for at least for forward navigation is that I read a page and once I reach the end I want to continue reading on the "next" page. Having to scroll up, open the breadcrumb menu or locate the page tree, locate the current page (which, granted, is simple, as it's highlighted) and select the next document in the list breaks the "natural" flow in my opinion.

The "forward / backward" navigation feature definitely would not replace the breadcrumb navigation, it would rather amend it. And there's also definitely content where it's more fitting / appropriate, and on the other hand content where it's less so.

Example Wikipedia: A next/previous button which jumps from one article to the next or preceeding one would not be too helpful. It probably would not hurt, but it also wouldn't really be needed.

On the other hand, a manual imported into Xwiki and split across several pages would - in my point of view - benefit a lot from this feature.

Hi Gunter,

Provide a feature to navigate to the next / previous "sibling page" (page below the same parent page) from within the page.

What does next mean? Next based on the page name? Based on the title name? Based on the data the page was created?

Also we already provide this feature in the breadcrumb where you can navigate to siblings easily. Wouldn't that fix your need? (see screenshots at https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/ContentOrganization/#HUsingNestedPages ).

Thanks